Sponsor |  artist | Nov 12, 2004 7:21am | Thoughts are what we collect here. With thoughts about actions, emotions changes, it they are touchable.
What happen in OB's case just followed the theory. Extending that, may be we can present thoughts that would help him to do better.
1. OB, How do you get fresh? |
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Sponsor | | OrionBlastar | Nov 12, 2004 7:41am | What do you mean by fresh?
BTW it is Orion Blastar, not Orion Blaster.
Anyway I am taking a wild guess here and finding out how I deal with stess?
When I watch my son I hold my stress in and hide my depression etc. I don't want him acting like me. I never hit him, and I give him time-outs and explain to him why his behavior was wrong and what he can do to correct it. I recently had a talk with him about going to school, he didn't want to go because another child was picking on him and pushed him into a shelf and knocked toys over and they all called him names and made him pick up every toy. The teacher was busy with something else and did not notice this incident. So I told my son to not let it get to him and tell the teacher when something happens and tell the other children that their behavior is mean and that he does not like it.
So I get used to holding in the stress and deprsssion, until it finally exploded online after many online outbursts and arguments I had with various people over sensitive topics like the election results etc.
I usually take my stress out in video games or online games, but I haven't had time for that recently with my college classes being harder and taking up more of my time (3.86 GPA does not earn itself), and my wife working extra hours and causing me to watch our son more (more stress held in), and several bad things happening to me (someone stole my info from a loan company, bills from car accident, more head trauma acting up from car accident, some friends backstabbing me, etc), and the online harassment etc which helped push me even more, plus I got many people asking me for computer help (I am an expert computer technician and tech support person, programmer, network administrator, database administrator, web page creator, etc) and I have to tell them I have no time to help them while I am in college and have things out of my control in my life.
I hadn't heard from most of my friends in a while, and I finally was able to talk to a few of them over the phone, which helped. Today two of them are visiting me for a role playing game called Traveller that we've played since High School (1985-1986) off and on, which helps me get stress out of my system too. |
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Sponsor | | artist | Nov 12, 2004 8:00am | 2. OB, Thanks for your otuburst.
You are very welcome on this forums.
In order that we can help you the best, I like to know how
'you' have got free help earlier, or better how have you seen people helping each other.
Welcome, with all the best wishes for an excellent source of life. |
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| | | catch | Nov 12, 2004 9:57am | | artist, I have to ask you what you mean, whether you are serious or cynical? "What do you mean by "fresh?" is a pretty reasonable question. |
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Sponsor | | artist | Nov 12, 2004 10:19am | Really Serious.
4> Situations and Circumstances can put you in conditions which are beyond your control sometimes. At that point you need to get fresh. You need to come out of anything that you are currently experiencing on physical/mental level. You need to get perspective of situtation from 'going' outside of the situtation atleast for a while. That's what I mean by get fresh.
Some examples. We take shower, relax for a moment, stop thinking, make a call, drink soda or other bevarages, talk to a friend, walk for a while, stumble, read news etc..
If You "really" know what you can do to get fresh, it definitely helps to overcome the burden of situtation.
3> You have to be ready to get help if you are seeking for help. You should know how the help happens. So words of help do not get percieved as mere condolences.
OB
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You can write here or message me, about what are the good moments in the life.
Also, I suggest that you take part in "What I like Now thread..", hanging-out.group.stumbleupon.com/forum/4512/ [hanging-out.group.stumbleupon.com/forum/4512/]. Developing liking is an important part of better life. |
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Sponsor | | OrionBlastar | Nov 12, 2004 12:38pm | 3: I am in a Yahoo group a Psychologist hosts, and I am posting to him my feelings and thoughts. I had two so-called friends in there also trying to work out issues between us. I admitted to the problems the Psychologist said I had, but the other two could not admit to theirs and refused to work with the Psychologist. They eventually quit and before they did they started heaping abuse on me and the Psychologist. I am working things out with him over my suicidal thoughts and actions.
My wife is a LPN nurse that works with depressed people in nursing homes, and she is helping me feel better.
I am trying to learn how Psychology and people work, so I can better understand behavior and the way some people act. Perhaps even why I act the way I do.
It was either that or pay Lucy 5 cents for Psychological Advice, so she can call me a "Blockhead". :)
5: I take a walk, I am doing exercises (pushups, jumping jacks, situps, etc), listening to music, watching TV, trying to mellow out. I even found myself coloring one of my son's pictures for him and I stayed inside the lines. :) I used to write poetry, and I quit for some reason recently. I tried writing a few novels, but my poor English and Grammar skills make it impossible to get published, plus I got writer's block due to the stress. |
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Sponsor | | artist | Nov 12, 2004 1:39pm | 6>
Let's give the mind a much needed rest. Think about something only when you can do it with calmness and thoughtfullnes.
Much thoughts and talk about them, takes the life away from you.
Your creativity and helpfulness might be very eager to flourish. More important compared to those things are, your easiness in life. So prefer easeness of mind over creativity. If you need to feel stronger, learn "slowly" towards the goal.
You need to begin with the end in mind. Let's draw a good picture, what do you want after all help and advices. |
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|  |  41264 | Nov 12, 2004 2:27pm | Everyone has suicidal thoughts now and then, you wouldn't be human if you didn't, but what separates us is that for most it's only a passing thought. Life is hard work, and sometimes if feels easier to hide under a rock and not have to face it, BUT, as a parent, you chose to face it and you must follow that through until the end of your days, for your child if nothing else.
I can show you what I have written, as a wife and mother. How did suicide affect me? It very nearly destroyed me. It has severely affected at least 2 of my kids, and that now adds to the stress. It has financially ruined me, mentally and emotionally scarred me, not to mention what it has done to my kids. My 2 youngest don't remember their father except through pictures.
Before you decide that you have had enough, think of your wife and child, and what it will do to them. Then get up, dust yourself off, and get the hell on with the life that you chose. It's really not as hard as you think it is. |
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Sponsor | | trebenaid | Nov 12, 2004 2:49pm | | If the only help you are receiving is from an online psychologist, then no wonder you ae having problems. I am amazed that your wife hasn't insisted that you get help since (if) she is in the health care profession. The mental illnesses that you have been throwing around telling people that you have in the posts that I have read about you are all serious enough to warrant "hands-on" psychological help. Not something you get from the net from a yahoo group. If you are serious about getting help then you need to seriously get help. Otherwise you are wasting our time and yours with conversations like this. |
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| | | catch | Nov 12, 2004 3:34pm | I'd like to express my warm and fuzzy feeling over having a thread just for OB. I really like this. OB, I hope you do too.
artist -- thanks for the definition of fresh. I don't think I would have used the word this way, the clarification was important. Honestly, I thought have that hilarious feminine protection commercial.... "Mom, I have that not so fresh feeling......"
Ashlyn -- I know you have a lot of experience and knowledge about suicide, so I wouldn't want to tell you how to think. I can only speak for myself. I have been suicidal beyond "a thought now and then." It's not just a thought. It takes over my body. For me, depression without intervention is a direct line to a constant obsession with death. Jane Pauley got clinical depression from a neurological/chemical anomaly. She said that prior to the disorder, she couldn't conceive of how people could leave their family behind. After she got sick, she understood, and really just wanted to be subsumed into the hereafter.
OB -- is there some reason you're not going to therapy? |
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